Re: French Election : Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:36 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Don't the immigrants just pass through France rather than 'steal' jobs, set up camp in Calais and then board the trucks, boats and trains for the gold paved benefits streets of the UK?

Horatio Yed wrote:

Why anyone would want to stay in France longer than is necessary is beyond me

Keeping believing that: keeps the riff raff numbers down when I'm on holiday.

Re: French Election : Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:24 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

No. AFAIR, the UK is drifting generally NW, towards Scandinavia. But as Scandinavia is heading the same way, we won't crash. Which, if you've ever hit a Volvo, is probably as well.

Is Iceland safe?

Re: French Election : Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:13 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

No. AFAIR, the UK is drifting generally NW, towards Scandinavia. But as Scandinavia is heading the same way, we won't crash. Which, if you've ever hit a Volvo, is probably as well.

Is Iceland safe?

preferred Bejams personally....

Re: French Election : Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:21 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

sanjunien wrote:

to kerb immigration from the east which is affecting the job seekers in France

sanjunien wrote:

if people want to work then great

sanjunien wrote:

I am quite entitled to my opinion

You are. You are also entitled to contradict yourself as much as you want.

why thank you sir

if anyone comes to france and finds gainful employment then fair enough though the average french employer will consider a french candidate before anyone else - what annoys people like me is the person or family who just turns up on the doorstep of the Secu (Social Services) and demands to be housed fed & watered because they are a member of a EU state and that includes loads of uk citizens

if that's a contradiction,then so be it mon ami.

Re: French Election : Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:25 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

sanjunien wrote:

So how many of these Eastern European immigrants are coming to France to sponge off taxpayers?

probably as many as you have in the UK in Germany

I thought they were coming to work but according to you that's OK.

no problem with the ones who come to work though work is scarce,at least they are net contributors to the system rather than parasites who come just to escape the terible conditions in their homelands

Re: French Election : Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:30 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

... parasites who come just to escape the terible conditions in their homelands

So let's get this right: someone "just" escaping "terible (sic) conditions", possibly with their family, is a "parasite".

Re: French Election : Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:40 pm  

peggy wrote: sanjunien wrote: ROBINSON wrote: Doesn't make any difference. It's only the French, and we'll be out of Europe anyway soon ] According to your fellow French citizens it is not really the GB spongers bleeding the french system dry. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/02/french-willing-fit-racist-cliche I am not entittled to receive anything from the French governement but I have paid my tax d'habitation and fonciere for the last 6 years and back in the '90s I paid tax as part of my employment. If it wasn't for the influx of English you wouldn't be able to take advantage of the fish and chip vans that visit the little towns and villages! interesting article which is being ather kind as the majority of french people are inherently racist or maybe just inherently nationalist - I can't think of many french people I know who actually tolerates any person with a dark skin - the article is being overly positive IMO Of course you are not entitled to anything back just because you have paid your rates except the normal services like sewerage (unless you have a septic tank obviously) or regular refuse collection etc probably just like in the uk.If you have worked and paid taxes in france you will be entitled to a french pension - when depends on your date of birth but it now starts at 61 and you would receive notification from the CRAMCO (Pensions Office) about four years before your entitlements start.Contact your local office in the department and they will give you a breakdown of future entitlements.They are usually very helpful.I will help you if I can with the contact addresses etc bearing in mind there are now about half a million GB families with properties in France either living full time or mostly as holiday homes quoting a figure of tens of thousands of people who are cheating the system is small which means that the vast majority are ok.They have brought employment to thousands of local artisans and in many cases kept communities going by buying properties in run down areas.The problem is the minority are giving the majority an increasingly bad name - that is to say like the kind of person who is claiming child benefit or invalidity benefit in both countries.Just one example but it's costing the UK & France a fortune each year.

peggy wrote: sanjunien wrote: ROBINSON wrote: Doesn't make any difference. It's only the French, and we'll be out of Europe anyway soon ] According to your fellow French citizens it is not really the GB spongers bleeding the french system dry. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/02/french-willing-fit-racist-cliche I am not entittled to receive anything from the French governement but I have paid my tax d'habitation and fonciere for the last 6 years and back in the '90s I paid tax as part of my employment. If it wasn't for the influx of English you wouldn't be able to take advantage of the fish and chip vans that visit the little towns and villages! interesting article which is being ather kind as the majority of french people are inherently racist or maybe just inherently nationalist - I can't think of many french people I know who actually tolerates any person with a dark skin - the article is being overly positive IMO Of course you are not entitled to anything back just because you have paid your rates except the normal services like sewerage (unless you have a septic tank obviously) or regular refuse collection etc probably just like in the uk.If you have worked and paid taxes in france you will be entitled to a french pension - when depends on your date of birth but it now starts at 61 and you would receive notification from the CRAMCO (Pensions Office) about four years before your entitlements start.Contact your local office in the department and they will give you a breakdown of future entitlements.They are usually very helpful.I will help you if I can with the contact addresses etc bearing in mind there are now about half a million GB families with properties in France either living full time or mostly as holiday homes quoting a figure of tens of thousands of people who are cheating the system is small which means that the vast majority are ok.They have brought employment to thousands of local artisans and in many cases kept communities going by buying properties in run down areas.The problem is the minority are giving the majority an increasingly bad name - that is to say like the kind of person who is claiming child benefit or invalidity benefit in both countries.Just one example but it's costing the UK & France a fortune each year.

Re: French Election : Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:43 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Don't the immigrants just pass through France rather than 'steal' jobs, set up camp in Calais and then board the trucks, boats and trains for the gold paved benefits streets of the UK?

yes,many do though the majority stay in France,Belgium or Germany

Why anyone would want to stay in France longer than is necessary is beyond me

strange that France is still the most visited tourist destination in the world .....

Re: French Election : Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:44 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

what annoys people like me is the person or family who just turns up on the doorstep of the Secu (Social Services) and demands to be housed fed & watered because they are a member of a EU state and that includes loads of uk citizens

if that's a contradiction,then so be it mon ami.

I didn't think that unemployed uk citizens with no reseidency in France could claim anything in france?

Re: French Election : Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:44 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

Rock God X wrote:

sanjunien wrote:

to kerb immigration from the east which is affecting the job seekers in France

sanjunien wrote:

if people want to work then great

sanjunien wrote:

I am quite entitled to my opinion

You are. You are also entitled to contradict yourself as much as you want.

why thank you sir

if anyone comes to france and finds gainful employment then fair enough though the average french employer will consider a french candidate before anyone else - what annoys people like me is the person or family who just turns up on the doorstep of the Secu (Social Services) and demands to be housed fed & watered because they are a member of a EU state and that includes loads of uk citizens

if that's a contradiction,then so be it mon ami.

May I draw your attention to the first quote above, where you clearly state that immigration is affecting job seekers in France, and that you would vote for the candidate who seeks to minimise this. You then go on to state that anyone who comes to France to work is ok by you. That's the contradiction.

And, indeed, you have further contradicted yourself by stating that most French employers will favour French candidates over others. If that is the case, how can these immigrants possibly be affecting French job seekers?