Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:15 am  

Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:

Can't really blame a global recession on Labour.

Good to see the Tories making the people who caused the recession pay for it though. The poorest and most vulnerable in our society, rightly paying for their actions in the global markets via austerity. That'll show em.

You can't blame for anything - none of it was their fault they could not have done anything more?

This is the party whose leader congratulated the banks on doing such a good job - you need a reality check.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:31 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You can't blame for anything - none of it was their fault they could not have done anything more?

This is the party whose leader congratulated the banks on doing such a good job - you need a reality check.

Noooo, it's poor peoples fault - they're paying for their silly mistakes.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:36 pm  

If the British political system worked as it is SUPPOSED TO I'd be more than willing to make Corbyn favourite as the next leader of the country. His politics are at least within the same solar system as the Common Man's (barring the usual aspirational wannabees and weirdos).

But if the role of Prime Minister ever carried much clout it leaked away a long, long time ago.

I certainly don't think the position has wielded much authority internationally since the humiliating climb-down on Suez.

Political leaders these days are little more than well-paid fall guys. Their job is to divert the public's attention away from the true source of power (big business, finance, defence, drug-trafficking etc.). How long they last in the job really does depend on how well they manage to insulate their benefactors from harmful legislation (or prosecution). Like a sponge they soak up enmity until reaching a point of super-saturation whereupon their masters cut them loose in favour of a new shiny object which will distract the masses.

In the (incredibly rare) event that one of them decides to develop a mind of his own then there are a whole suite of tools designed to remind him of the fragility of his position.

Once out of office they are immediately isolated from prying investigation and quietly go about enjoying the rich rewards they earned from selling their souls.

The whole system is broken from top to bottom.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:08 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

The whole system is broken from top to bottom.

I'd say it was working exactly as designed to. There's nothing broken about it.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:22 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

I'd say it was working exactly as designed to. There's nothing broken about it.

Well, yes. It's all about perspective.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:38 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

I'd say it was working exactly as designed to. There's nothing broken about it.

If you are an aristocratic elitist then yes.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:18 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

If you are an aristocratic elitist then yes.

And whom were the people who designed the system?

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:05 pm  

So.... Corbyn has rompt to victory with nearly 60% of the vote, with a 75% turn out.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:30 pm  

I suspect Cameron and his gang will be enjoying their beer tonight. Jobs secured for the next 10 years

Both Tom and Jerry's speeches were shocking at the conference. 'Comrades and movement', what sort of terminology is that in 2015!

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:01 pm  

As if May wasn't good enough then this happens.