Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:29 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Where did I suggest that you weren't?

I do, however, reserve the right to pour scorn on it.

Why would he care? I've searched all sixteen pages of this thread and I can't find a single post of yours which convinces me that your opinion is worth entertaining.

I mean, aside from telling everyone that you aren't a racist, xenophobe etc etc. etc. what have you said?

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:09 am  

For those people who continue to harp on about my supposed "belligerency" I'd just like to point out that it really isn't personal.

I just get frustrated by so many people with so little to say.

Do any of you actually READ books which don't feature Lewis Hamilton on the cover?

What happened to the Internet?

I remember having some genuinely stimulating discussions with smart people when I first started posting to Usenet. Nowadays I literally feel like scooping out my eyes with a spoon reading half the crap which gets posted in here.

I wouldn't mind if it weren't for that fact that I KNOW many of you are capable of much more. Yet you just don't try.

Feck it. I'm off to bed.

[Kosh]

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:59 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Why would he care? I've searched all sixteen pages of this thread and I can't find a single post of yours which convinces me that your opinion is worth entertaining.

I mean, aside from telling everyone that you aren't a racist, xenophobe etc etc. etc. what have you said?

Oh, Hi, Mugwump. Nice to see you break away from talking to yourself in your private delusional threads long enough to scatter a few words of 'wisdom' in my direction. I could do with a laugh.

I'll just stop responding now and you can chunter away. Should make you feel right at home.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:27 am  

Kosh wrote:

Oh, Hi, Mugwump. Nice to see you break away from talking to yourself in your private delusional threads long enough to scatter a few words of 'wisdom' in my direction. I could do with a laugh.

I'll just stop responding now and you can chunter away. Should make you feel right at home.

Seventeen pages, now...

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:47 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Where did I suggest that you weren't?

I do, however, reserve the right to pour scorn on it.

Yes you do reserve that right , as of course do I on yours and others , hopefully a reasoned debate unlike certain others

It seems I was banned permenantly yesterday for posting on this thread , who by ? , no idea they obviously didn't feel brave enough to disclose who or why , or who has reinstated me

Happy to take part in as I said a reasoned debate , although a certain individual will now go on ignore , something I've never felt the need to do previously in 14 years of posting on this board

Unfortunately it seems the certain individual cannot be ' ignored '

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:53 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Popycock. The EU is not any kind of existential threat to self-determination and young voters are overwhelming in favour of remaining in it.

The EU is a threat to certain right-wing interests being able to screw the rest of us over. Which is why the usual suspects are leading the Out vote.

I've yet to hear any argument by a ' young ' person other than they don't want to lose the ease of traveling within Europe

Those right-wing interests being what ?

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:33 pm  

Kosh wrote:

I'll be voting to stay in as I am not any of the following:

1. Ill-informed
2. Xenophobic
3. Stupid
4. A conspiracy fruitcake
5. All of the above

Plus Brexiters make me embarrassed to be British.

I would respectfully suggest that such a silly post suggests your point 3 or indeed 4 may apply to you.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:53 pm  

I cannot see any case whatsoever for remaining in the EU:

1. Economically it will continue to decline until it or unless it completely changes its modus operandi. It will destroy Britain's economy long-term by squeezing all innovation out - this has already happened in certain fields, eg drugs development, tech development, etc via centralised regulation. If it does dramatically reform then those who support it now for immature reasons like "workers rights" will be the first to complain.
2. Safer and more secure? Not a chance. The only "fact" is that Britain got dragged into two world wars due to forming alliances with other European states. Also, look at the uprisings (which we are only seeing the start of) in the poorer peripheral regions (which we will be in time if we stay in). Think of the potential future strife on the mass immigration of people from the Muslim world encouraged by Merkel. History strongly suggests this will result in bloodshed at some point in the future.
3. Getting out could stimulate growth and relieve poverty in Africa and other poorer regions as we could buy their produce more easily and more fairly.
4. It is utterly untenable for Cameron to pretend we can somehow be at the centre of the EU steering its development when we are not in the Eurozone. So that means the reasoners will have to sign us up to the destructive Eurozone in future. Why won't they say that? Could it be dishonesty - like our politicians have given us from the start if thus project?

To me the risks of staying in are enormous for the UK.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:01 pm  

GUBRATS wrote:

I've yet to hear any argument by a ' young ' person other than they don't want to lose the ease of traveling within Europe

Those right-wing interests being what ?

The youngsters seem to like being able to travel to Europe without a visa. Nobody seems to have told them that we used to before we joined the EU (other behind the iron curtain) or that other EEA members don't have a problem.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:23 pm  

Dally wrote:

The youngsters seem to like being able to travel to Europe without a visa. Nobody seems to have told them that we used to before we joined the EU (other behind the iron curtain) or that other EEA members don't have a problem.

Eggsactly