Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:53 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Even the lefties/Boris bashers on here can't suggest that the government isn't prepared to put whatever money is needed right now into the NHS - are you?

They are throwing plenty of money and resource at the problem, absolutely no doubt about it.
Does that mean they are getting everything right, does it hell AND they are systematically twisting the truth to try and cover their own backsides and this is the gripe that I have with them.

Our ruling government were happy to tell lies before taking office and seem happy to do the same now - there is a huge trust issue.
There is also an issue with competence, although, for me, this stems from not trusting them.

NOT ONE OF THE GOVERNMENT MINISTERS HAS ACCEPTED ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR HOW THIS IS UNFOLDING and instead, blame those that are risking their lives.
The rest of the country are taking pay cuts, being furloughed etc but, these clowns say that they are working hard, once again, being "in this together", is sounding very, very hollow.

Not to mention my favourite subject of freezing the pay for the very people that we have all now come to rely on

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:37 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Even the lefties/Boris bashers on here can't suggest that the government isn't prepared to put whatever money is needed right now into the NHS - are you?

Nope, theyve done very well for the last 4 weeks.
Just for not doing it for the last 10 years (as well as making cuts in other areas such as social care/sure start etc. etc. etc. etc. that directly affected the NHS).

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:46 am  

Jukesays wrote:

Nope, theyve done very well for the last 4 weeks.
Just for not doing it for the last 10 years (as well as making cuts in other areas such as social care/sure start etc. etc. etc. etc. that directly affected the NHS).

Perhaps if they hadn't inherited the mess they did then this situation would have been unnecessary?

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:57 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Perhaps if they hadn't inherited the mess they did then this situation would have been unnecessary?

A bit unoriginal for a Captain of Industry like yourself.
Your an innovator mate, come on, you can do better than that.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:09 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Perhaps if they hadn't inherited the mess they did then this situation would have been unnecessary?

I wondered how long it would be until 2008 got a mention. It's been over a decade. Change the record.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:04 pm  

A VERY wise man once wrote, "The thing to remember about Socialists is, they are only half as intereated in the plight of those they deem to be treated unfairly, as they are in vilifying the rich"

[Durham Giant]

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:24 pm  

IR80 wrote:

A VERY wise man once wrote, "The thing to remember about Socialists is, they are only half as intereated in the plight of those they deem to be treated unfairly, as they are in vilifying the rich"

As opposed to IR80 who seems unable to respond to any of tne real issues except by deflection, and misinformation. Unfortunately right wingers all over the worl are doing exactly the same thing

Bolsonaro in Brazil, Trump in America, Johnson ( or th epuppet of the day) in the UK.

If criticised just ignore the issue and talk about something else.

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:32 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

As opposed to IR80 who seems unable to respond to any of tne real issues except by deflection, and misinformation. Unfortunately right wingers all over the worl are doing exactly the same thing

Bolsonaro in Brazil, Trump in America, Johnson ( or th epuppet of the day) in the UK.

If criticised just ignore the issue and talk about something else.

not at all, just no point conversing with agenda driven individuals, especially those who make threats via PM hiding behind a moderators badge. Crack on, it is fun, listen to Khan, he knows better than the experts, like you!

[Mild Rover]

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:47 pm  

IR80 wrote:

A VERY wise man once wrote, "The thing to remember about Socialists is, they are only half as intereated in the plight of those they deem to be treated unfairly, as they are in vilifying the rich"

Who was the very wise man, out of interest?

Re: PM in Intensive Care... : Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:57 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Who was the very wise man, out of interest?

I wouldn't expect you to share my opinion of who is wise and who isn't, on the whole you seem a more moderate member of the left.

This is not "The Sin Bin", it is, increasingly, a hate filled mob of a few posters of a certain age with personal axes to grind, who believe in a defunct ideaology, and we wonder why RL has never developed beyond the limitations of its mass appeal.