Re: Ukraine : Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:22 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

Because we have a free press and access to news from around the world. In Russia you can only get the news provided by the government unless you can get access to the internet. Putin has blocked a lot of it though.

Have you ever read news about thailand for example.
It is run by a corrupt autocratic king supported by a corrupt dictatorship who subvert oppress and murder the civilians in turkey shoots on the streets, with democracy supporters and activists being murdered.
Where is the western outrage?,
The last three democratically elected governments have all been overthrown by the army in deadly military coups. The west turns a blind eye over the last 20 years, and cossetts the illegal Thai dictator to joint naval exercises..

Biden and Lyin Boris say there is no place for dictators referencing Putin, but are fawning all over the general pinochet type General Prayuth.

Total and utter western hypocrisy

Re: Ukraine : Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:28 pm  

Superblue wrote:

Have you ever read news about thailand for example.
It is run by a corrupt autocratic king supported by a corrupt dictatorship who subvert oppress and murder the civilians in turkey shoots on the streets, with democracy supporters and activists being murdered.
Where is the western outrage?,
The last three democratically elected governments have all been overthrown by the army in deadly military coups. The west turns a blind eye over the last 20 years, and cossetts the illegal Thai dictator to joint naval exercises..

Biden and Lyin Boris say there is no place for dictators referencing Putin, but are fawning all over the general pinochet type General Prayuth.

Total and utter western hypocrisy

For you to form that opinion you’ve obviously got access to news and opinion on it.

You’re also able to post that without it being illegal.

Re: Ukraine : Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:28 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

One country has invaded another and is bombing civilians and besieging cities.
Anyone who puts the blame for that on anyone other than the person or people doing the invading or launching the missiles or surrounding those cities is deceiving themselves or seeking to deceive others.

That is an avid description of the illegal US and UK invasion of Iraq
So who is deceiving who here?

Re: Ukraine : Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:32 pm  

Superblue wrote:

Have you ever read news about thailand for example.
It is run by a corrupt autocratic king supported by a corrupt dictatorship who subvert oppress and murder the civilians in turkey shoots on the streets, with democracy supporters and activists being murdered.
Where is the western outrage?,
The last three democratically elected governments have all been overthrown by the army in deadly military coups. The west turns a blind eye over the last 20 years, and cossetts the illegal Thai dictator to joint naval exercises..

Biden and Lyin Boris say there is no place for dictators referencing Putin, but are fawning all over the general pinochet type General Prayuth.

Total and utter western hypocrisy

The settled Western view, which is realistically the only pragmatic one, is that dictators will have to be tolerated in their home countries because it will be up for the people in those countries to overthrow them. But if they invade another country then all bets are off.

Unless your alternative is for the US and UK to move against those dictators, invade those countries and overthrow those governments? I guess you were a big supporter of the Iraq war?

Whatabouting the invasion of Ukraine really is the most moronic thing I've seen today, and I've just watched Wakefield's first half efforts. It really isn't hard to say the invasion of Iraq was bad and the invasion of Ukraine is just as bad - unless you're acting in the ultimate bad faith.

Re: Ukraine : Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:35 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

For you to form that opinion you’ve obviously got access to news and opinion on it.

You’re also able to post that without it being illegal.

It would be illegal and punishable by death to post that in Thailand, but who cares, not Sleepy Joe, or Lyin Boris, they are filling their boots out of the Thai people’s oppression and suffering, but it’s not splashed across western media 24/7 cos nobody cares, all hypocrites

The best part is that the dictator Thai king is allowed to reside in Germany of all places,you couldn’t make it up.

Re: Ukraine : Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:38 pm  

Superblue wrote:

It would be illegal and punishable by death to post that in Thailand, but who cares, not Sleepy Joe, or Lyin Boris, they are filling their boots out of the Thai people’s oppression and suffering, but it’s not splashed across western media 24/7 cos nobody cares, all hypocrites

The best part is that the dictator Thai king is allowed to reside in Germany of all places,you couldn’t make it up.

Look! Over there!

Let's talk about anything other than Russia invading Ukraine!

Re: Ukraine : Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:39 pm  

Has Sir Kier Starmer gone completely bonkers or are the blue bits on here Russian expansionism https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=nato+expansion+map&fir=ORexSTy4F6yiSM%252Cu06TvJL22Ndj0M%252C_%253Bv6EQEbzBRZVX5M%252Cu06TvJL22Ndj0M%252C_%253BsKuatZ59xApxaM%252CasDi80Ddr4lmZM%252C_%253BbhpDSR4cshKAXM%252CxE1DIPJPYvoW2M%252C_%253BriYiiPYFEetqQM%252CdvaWh0rnysVhUM%252C_%253BjdXi6LFfUzSMVM%252CAvB8xvP27uBiIM%252C_%253B0EUOgzz5rd9O4M%252Cu06TvJL22Ndj0M%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQ8rE_Rj2KZPzTY9kzxeK3WAw-OnA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjgr4SX76z2AhW0gVwKHbFNDJMQ420oAHoECAkQBA&biw=1024&bih=666&dpr=2#imgrc=ZDyoxSRSbgeHrM

Has Sir Kier Starmer gone completely bonkers or are the blue bits on here Russian expansionism https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=nato+expansion+map&fir=ORexSTy4F6yiSM%252Cu06TvJL22Ndj0M%252C_%253Bv6EQEbzBRZVX5M%252Cu06TvJL22Ndj0M%252C_%253BsKuatZ59xApxaM%252CasDi80Ddr4lmZM%252C_%253BbhpDSR4cshKAXM%252CxE1DIPJPYvoW2M%252C_%253BriYiiPYFEetqQM%252CdvaWh0rnysVhUM%252C_%253BjdXi6LFfUzSMVM%252CAvB8xvP27uBiIM%252C_%253B0EUOgzz5rd9O4M%252Cu06TvJL22Ndj0M%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQ8rE_Rj2KZPzTY9kzxeK3WAw-OnA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjgr4SX76z2AhW0gVwKHbFNDJMQ420oAHoECAkQBA&biw=1024&bih=666&dpr=2#imgrc=ZDyoxSRSbgeHrM

Re: Ukraine : Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:58 pm  

Baghdad illegal shock and awe razing 2003, by America and U.K., this is just 7 mins of it, thousands of brown skinned people murdered by western hypocrites https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0yr-LaMhvro No outrage

Baghdad illegal shock and awe razing 2003, by America and U.K., this is just 7 mins of it, thousands of brown skinned people murdered by western hypocrites https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0yr-LaMhvro No outrage

Re: Ukraine : Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:40 pm  

Cognitive dissonance is strong with this tankie.

No outrage? Millions of people all over the country protested it, and Labour have never really been able to fully regain public trust because of it.

Again, what does that have to do with Ukraine? They weren't even involved in the Iraq war. Are you suggesting Putin's invasion of Iraq is justified because America invaded Iraq?

Re: Ukraine : Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:47 pm  

Jack Burton wrote:

Cognitive dissonance is strong with this tankie.

No outrage? Millions of people all over the country protested it, and Labour have never really been able to fully regain public trust because of it.

Again, what does that have to do with Ukraine? They weren't even involved in the Iraq war. Are you suggesting Putin's invasion of Iraq is justified because America invaded Iraq?

Correct. Just one March had over 1million people and we held an inquiry into the war that found it to be illegal. Russia on the other hand have passed the new law through parliament that would make it illegal to say anything negative about the unprovoked and illegal invasion of Ukraine.

Still the Russia today, Farage addled fifth columnists won’t have it and still think they’re patriots.

- before anyone mentions brexit it’s nothing to do with it. I’m talking about farage’s support for Putin even describing him as “the world leader I admire most”. After he’d poisoned one of his critics in London with polonium and killed two Brits with Novichok in Salisbury.