Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun May 29, 2016 10:33 pm  

DVW wrote:

After all the mind-churning, tit-for-tat, meaningless argy-bargy that has been served up by the two camps, I would recommend any undecideds and brexiters to read the most sensible and reasoned opinion piece yet, on the front page of today's Guardian. The author is none other than Delia Smith.

Written in a gin soaked stupour I'd imagine. Delia Smith? Come on! Who's taking her words of wisdom seriously?

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun May 29, 2016 10:35 pm  

Him wrote:

"British culture" (whatever the feck that is).

You might not recognise it as standing out because you have been immersed in it since birth but we have a rich cultural history stretching back well over 1000 years,

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun May 29, 2016 11:37 pm  

wigan_rlfc wrote:

You might not recognise it as standing out because you have been immersed in it since birth but we have a rich cultural history stretching back well over 1000 years,

But the point is that that culture is an ever-changing and evolving one. It isn't the same "culture" over all that period, it's been influenced and changed by all sorts of things, especially foreign influences. So there's no reason it should stay exactly the same now. It should evolve and change, otherwise we'd never develop and evolve as a society.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon May 30, 2016 2:01 am  

Whether or not the Turks will up sticks and move the moment they get into the EU is unknown. However, it's a certainty once the privately financed death squads and counterinsurgency units pour into that country much in the same way they've done in Libya, Syria, Tunisia etc. Of course, it's just a coincidence that all these nations have been set ablaze roughly at the same time. After all, it's not like mass population migration has ever been used as an effective strategy before....

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon May 30, 2016 10:03 am  

Kosh wrote:

Wrong. The whole thing was based around an idea by Churchill and backed by the other Allied leaders in the wake of WWII.

But not of course for Brtain which was considered above all that.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon May 30, 2016 10:05 am  

If undecided then vote out as an out vote is a sure way of getting rid of Cameron and Osborne this summer. Happy days could be here within a month!

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon May 30, 2016 10:09 am  

If unsure then the logicalconclussion is to vote out.

The EU doesnt want us to leave, so if this out vote isn't beneficial we can always vote to go back in, and they would welcome us with open wallets, we won't get the out vote anytime again in my lifetime.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon May 30, 2016 10:21 am  

The region stretching from the NW coast of Africa right across to Turkey, Syria (and possibly Iran) is on the verge of being blown wide open. The people who have invested so much time, effort and resources in this plan aren't going to back out now. When the hammer fully drops (and I reckon this is no more than 18 months down the line - at most) these poor people are going to be running for their very lives.

I don't care how much of a humanitarian you claim you are - the thought of MILLIONS of folk streaming across EU borders in search of the first safe haven which will take them must give you cause for concern.

One thing is for sure - when the poop hits the fan you can bet anyone who votes to stay will be screaming bloody murder and insistent he was always in favor of Brexit. A bit like those millions of people who voted Tory and now deny doing so.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon May 30, 2016 12:24 pm  

I wouldn't mind so much if it weren't for the fact that the Owners of this world, via their acolytes (Samuel P. Huntingdon, Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski etc. etc.), tell you decades in advance what their plans are. People who pooh-pooh this stuff would do well to read Clash of Civilizations And The Remaking of World Order, The Grand Chessboard And The Remaking of World Order, Strategic Vision: America And The Crisis of Global Power, World Order - Reflections On The Character of Nations And The Course Of History etc. etc. You'd think the number of times the phrase "World Order" appears in the titles of just four books would be a dead giveaway. So it's not like you people weren't given advance warning. These guys make plans and they stick to them.

I wouldn't mind so much if it weren't for the fact that the Owners of this world, via their acolytes (Samuel P. Huntingdon, Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski etc. etc.), tell you decades in advance what their plans are. People who pooh-pooh this stuff would do well to read Clash of Civilizations And The Remaking of World Order, The Grand Chessboard And The Remaking of World Order, Strategic Vision: America And The Crisis of Global Power, World Order - Reflections On The Character of Nations And The Course Of History etc. etc. You'd think the number of times the phrase "World Order" appears in the titles of just four books would be a dead giveaway. So it's not like you people weren't given advance warning. These guys make plans and they stick to them.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Tue May 31, 2016 4:43 pm  

Dally wrote:

If undecided then vote out as an out vote is a sure way of getting rid of Cameron and Osborne this summer. Happy days could be here within a month!

Get rid of Cameron & Osborne and end up with Johnson as PM, a cabinet reinforced with brexiters and fixated on immigration, with no effective opposition? No thanks.