[DaveO]

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:54 pm  

Mable_Syrup wrote:

Absolutely gutted about Rolf. Thought he was one of the good guys.

Going to have the throw me Rolf Harris CD out now. Two Little Boys just won't be the same anymore

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:13 pm  

I must admit it's awful that someone I used to like on TV as kid has turned out to be so bad. He seemed such a good guy, unlike Savile who always looked and sounded like a wierdo.

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:40 am  

I find it really unnerving and sinister when they show all the old footage of these offenders from years ago knowing what we do now. Savile pushing patients round hospital wards in wheelchairs and Harris in a swimming pool with a load of kids. You just think ''I wonder what happened behind closed doors after the cameras left?''

The most sickening thing is knowing now that Jim'll Fix, a show he controlled for 20 years on the bloody BBC, was probably devised entirely by Savile as a vehicle for his abuse. The sheer front and audacity of the man was staggering.

[DaveO]

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:22 am  

Dally wrote:

I must admit it's awful that someone I used to like on TV as kid has turned out to be so bad. He seemed such a good guy, unlike Savile who always looked and sounded like a wierdo.

It wasn't just me then that thought Savile was weird. As a kid I could never understand why he was on Top of the Pop's and later on when various documentaries shed some light on how he lived I never thought "eccentric", just weird. His persona on Jim'll fix it came across as more normal but everything else he did was just down right odd.

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:30 pm  

First things first, I think Harris was utterly wrong for having a sexual relationship with his daughters best friend. I think he's a sleazy dog. I think he used and abused his celebrity status to have sex with hundreds, if not thousands of women and girls.

But I think the charges, trial and verdict are a complete travesty of justice. When reading the accounts of the alleged victims I don't feel sympathy for them, I feel sympathy for Harris and his family for having to go through this utter BS.

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:51 pm  

DaveO wrote:

It wasn't just me then that thought Savile was weird. As a kid I could never understand why he was on Top of the Pop's and later on when various documentaries shed some light on how he lived I never thought "eccentric", just weird. His persona on Jim'll fix it came across as more normal but everything else he did was just down right odd.

I suspect he was a psychopath. Some of the things he said, did and lack of emotion suggest so.

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:55 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

First things first, I think Harris was utterly wrong for having a sexual relationship with his daughters best friend. I think he's a sleazy dog. I think he used and abused his celebrity status to have sex with hundreds, if not thousands of women and girls.

But I think the charges, trial and verdict are a complete travesty of justice. When reading the accounts of the alleged victims I don't feel sympathy for them, I feel sympathy for Harris and his family for having to go through this utter BS.

Sorry, either you are trolling or I hope you have a nasty accident with a loofah and some WD40.

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:48 pm  

Standee wrote:

Sorry, either you are trolling or I hope you have a nasty accident with a loofah and some WD40.

Not trolling at all. Just completely unconvinced by the statements the alleged victims have made.

If Harris had genuinely interfered with kids then I'd be happy to hear of his death in jail. On reading the accounts in the newspaper from the victims I don't think he should have even faced trial.

If you've heard compelling arguments that prove that Harris is deserving of his shaming as a paedophile then please share them. I haven't seen it in the articles I've read.

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:51 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Not trolling at all. Just completely unconvinced by the statements the alleged victims have made.

If Harris had genuinely interfered with kids then I'd be happy to hear of his death in jail. On reading the accounts in the newspaper from the victims I don't think he should have even faced trial.

If you've heard compelling arguments that prove that Harris is deserving of his shaming as a paedophile then please share them. I haven't seen it in the articles I've read.

No doubt the jury didn't just read a newspaper report of the proceedings....

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:28 pm  

Aye, maybe.

It'd be pretty radical, a jury basing a verdict on evidence as opposed to what's been written in The Daily Mail.

Might happen...