Re: Flat as a Pancake : Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:20 pm  

Stand-Offish wrote:

Or are you a religious nut too?

It unfortunately fell under that predictable banner a few days ago, just before it admitted that some of it's (ahem) evidence are You Tube gormclops videos it had made itself.

The Neanderthal's at least had the good grace to die out, they probably saw the existence of this gomper in the rune's.

Re: Flat as a Pancake : Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:10 pm  

Now, I am aware I have been a bit derogatory towards you theearthisflat, but I just watched another Rob Skiba video.

I asked you before, and I ask you again, in the most polite terms, and I apologise for my earlier rudeness.

I am genuinely interested in how old the Earth is in your view?

Re: Flat as a Pancake : Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:41 am  

theearthisflat wrote:

the best cartoon like adaptation I could come up with is this.

...

Look, I asked you a very simple question. Why would the moon look upside down to a person in Australia? You clearly have no idea. Your original thought (and I apologize to real thoughts everywhere for my loose use of the term) was to respond by quoting a random word: "Perspective". However, you can take it as read that we all understand what perspective is and what it does.

What you need to do is explain in basic simple terms how this hitherto unknown-to-man aspect of "perspective" can invert the apparent image of the same object viewed by two different people stood on the alleged same plane.

You can't. The best you can come up with is links to yet more interminable videos of people using software apparently manipulated and altered until it shows what they want it to show!

Is the position that you simply don't know why it does that? Or that you believe there must be a reason but it is too complicated for you to explain the basics of in simple terms? Or what?

As i said before, never mind linking to video after video of manipulated pseudo-scientific nonsense, you need to just tell us the basic plausible explanation - "WHY DOES THE MOON LOOK UPSIDE DOWN TO A PERSON IN AUSTRALIA".

You obviously can't. You obviously have no answer. You have failed spectacularly. You cannot answer a series of very simple questions that people have reasonably asked you. Instead, you feign ourage, or pretend that the simple answers you believe exist are nevertheless so complex we "neanderthals" cannot comprehend. Or whatever it is you are saying, I actually don't care.

What IS clear is you are just now making a fool of yourself. You have no answers. You can only fall back on the delusion of others who have the ability to make pseudo-scientific videos based on very dodgy science or none at all - whilst at the same time REJECTING the evidence of literally millions of genuine factual space videos, from many decades, which have no purpose but to show the world what was to be seen - yet those you denounce as a million "fakes".

That is in the realms of serious delusion. I am now entirely satisfied that you can't answer one simple question: "WHY DOES THE MOON LOOK UPSIDE DOWN TO A PERSON IN AUSTRALIA".

I still can't make up my mind if you are trolling or a genuine nutter, but my object in responding has been to ensure nobody else is taken in by this sort of utter bullshit. As nobody has been, it seems job done. This is not a fertile ground for your nonsense, so I suggest you fsck off and preach/troll somewhere you may have better luck, as you are wasting your time here.

Re: Flat as a Pancake : Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:54 am  

I'm really not interested in getting involved in some half-assed debate with one of the Internet's legion of oxygen-stealers.

I mean, technically speaking I suppose you could say that the earth is flat observed from higher dimensions where things get all weird.

But you don't need to be strapped into the Apollo command module to see the earth's curvature. It's noticeable looking out the window at 40,000ft. I've seen it many times on long distance flights to and from South Africa.

Vis a vis photographs - it's impossible to arrive at any worthwhile conclusions on the straightness or curvature of this or that object without knowing quite a few details about the lens, diameter, focal length, sensor etc etc. And even then - photographs are easy to fake. I could straighten the earth's curvature in photoshop in sixty seconds. I could invert it completely in the same amount of time.

On the question of NASA - whatever civilian oversight in might have possessed (if any) certainly ended with the Challenger disaster when the entire organisation became an adjunct to the military and Reagan's Star Wars program. Whilst I don't doubt that it is largely staffed by honest and conscientious staff today - all of them know who signs their pay-cheques and can be relied upon to toe the line.

Does this mean I think they are all engaged in a ruse to disguise the fact that we are living on Terry Pratchett's "Discworld" - no.

And on that note I'll leave you all to your squabbling.

Re: Flat as a Pancake : Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:44 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Look, I asked you a very simple question. Why would the moon look upside down to a person in Australia? You clearly have no idea. Your original thought (and I apologize to real thoughts everywhere for my loose use of the term) was to respond by quoting a random word: "Perspective". However, you can take it as read that we all understand what perspective is and what it does.

What you need to do is explain in basic simple terms how this hitherto unknown-to-man aspect of "perspective" can invert the apparent image of the same object viewed by two different people stood on the alleged same plane.

You can't. The best you can come up with is links to yet more interminable videos of people using software apparently manipulated and altered until it shows what they want it to show!

Is the position that you simply don't know why it does that? Or that you believe there must be a reason but it is too complicated for you to explain the basics of in simple terms? Or what?

As i said before, never mind linking to video after video of manipulated pseudo-scientific nonsense, you need to just tell us the basic plausible explanation - "WHY DOES THE MOON LOOK UPSIDE DOWN TO A PERSON IN AUSTRALIA".

You obviously can't. You obviously have no answer. You have failed spectacularly. You cannot answer a series of very simple questions that people have reasonably asked you. Instead, you feign ourage, or pretend that the simple answers you believe exist are nevertheless so complex we "neanderthals" cannot comprehend. Or whatever it is you are saying, I actually don't care.

What IS clear is you are just now making a fool of yourself. You have no answers. You can only fall back on the delusion of others who have the ability to make pseudo-scientific videos based on very dodgy science or none at all - whilst at the same time REJECTING the evidence of literally millions of genuine factual space videos, from many decades, which have no purpose but to show the world what was to be seen - yet those you denounce as a million "fakes".

That is in the realms of serious delusion. I am now entirely satisfied that you can't answer one simple question: "WHY DOES THE MOON LOOK UPSIDE DOWN TO A PERSON IN AUSTRALIA".

I still can't make up my mind if you are trolling or a genuine nutter, but my object in responding has been to ensure nobody else is taken in by this sort of utter bullshit. As nobody has been, it seems job done. This is not a fertile ground for your nonsense, so I suggest you fsck off and preach/troll somewhere you may have better luck, as you are wasting your time here.

I provided an stellarium of all sun and moon phases on your thread. Didn't think you'd understand it was in cartoon form too. Where did you copy and paste your message from this time. ? I'm still awaiting this proof were living on a spinning ball garbage.

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Re: Flat as a Pancake : Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:47 pm  

theearthisflat wrote:

Blah blah blah - I can't answer your question so I will revert to childish tactics to try to distract from the fact I've been found out.

Edited for accuracy!

Re: Flat as a Pancake : Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:24 pm  

Mike Oxlong wrote:

If i'd of looked at the introduction video I wouldn't ask silly questions I'm Deluded sorry.!

Edited as accurate

Re: Flat as a Pancake : Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:38 pm  

theearthisflat wrote:

I provided an stellarium of all sun and moon phases on your thread. Didn't think you'd understand it was in cartoon form too. Where did you copy and paste your message from this time. ? I'm still awaiting this proof were living on a spinning ball garbage.

Is one of the phases of the Moon inversion?

Re: Flat as a Pancake : Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:38 pm  

theearthisflat wrote:

I provided an stellarium of all sun and moon phases on your thread. Didn't think you'd understand it was in cartoon form too. Where did you copy and paste your message from this time. ? I'm still awaiting this proof were living on a spinning ball garbage.

Your flat Earth:

- does it spin?
- are all places on one surface or are some on the "bottom"?
- what shape is it when viewed from "above"?

Re: Flat as a Pancake : Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:54 pm  

I started watching a vid on YT last night called something like '200 the reasons the Earth is flat'.

I managed to watch until 11/12ish. I can't believe some people out there devote so much time and energy on it. Any scientific reasoning to counter their 'evidence' is rebuked by saying it's a conspiracy. Brilliant.