Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:46 pm  

Gandy wrote:

I agree with that, I've really enjoyed the demo. Good to see someone on here that likes the games. Most people don't usually see past the Pro Evo name though without slagging it off and being a FIFA fanboy but the demo is very promising, can't wait for the full game.

There is commentary and the ITV champions league team have been doing it the past couple of years but they took the commentary out of the demo as it took too much size up on the demo!

The criticism of Pro Evo has been fair. It has not been in the same league as FIFA on this current generation of consoles. Since FIFA 09 it has been miles behind. If it's caught up this time it must be massively different from 11, which was terrible.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:24 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

The criticism of Pro Evo has been fair. It has not been in the same league as FIFA on this current generation of consoles. Since FIFA 09 it has been miles behind. If it's caught up this time it must be massively different from 11, which was terrible.

Sam Tomkins' fault, surely.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:39 pm  

Cronus wrote:

Sam Tomkins' fault, surely.

Yup. I think he was the smoke monster in Lost too.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:33 am  

Bought that Deus Ex tonight. £27 (staff discount) for the game and a £5 pre-order thingy. So now I'll get a fiver off Fifa 11 (I will obviously buy it, but may also buy PES) and Deus Ex at a decent price. If I don't like it, I'll trade it back in.

Seems a pity that so many new games are coming out, yet all will fall beneath FM12.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:47 am  

Saddened! wrote:

The criticism of Pro Evo has been fair. It has not been in the same league as FIFA on this current generation of consoles. Since FIFA 09 it has been miles behind. If it's caught up this time it must be massively different from 11, which was terrible.

Your opinion, not everyone elses. I've already admitted FIFA has been the better of the 2 games this generation of consoles but its nowhere as bad as you always make out. Just seems a pattern with games you have a pop at you've hardly or never played like Pro Evo and all PS3 exclusives bar the Uncharted games. End of the day Pro Evo 12 could be the best footy game ever and FIFA 12 be the worst but FIFA will always outsell it by a mile cos its called FIFA!

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:32 am  

Gandy wrote:

Your opinion, not everyone elses. I've already admitted FIFA has been the better of the 2 games this generation of consoles but its nowhere as bad as you always make out. Just seems a pattern with games you have a pop at you've hardly or never played like Pro Evo and all PS3 exclusives bar the Uncharted games. End of the day Pro Evo 12 could be the best footy game ever and FIFA 12 be the worst but FIFA will always outsell it by a mile cos its called FIFA!

No way dude. I say what I see. You will notice i've not criticised pro evo 12 at all, in fact I'm intrigued by the suggestion that it's much improved this time. I have no real loyalty to fifa, it's just been the best game recently. I used to be a pro evo fan in the ps2 days.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:17 pm  

I take back what I said about Fifa's lobbed through ball being better than PES', if done correctly, the PES lobbed ball is beautiful. I'm really enjoying this game now, it's absolutely sublime to play. It's just not like Fifa, it lacks the stupid repetition and the defending on Fifa is far too easy to master. This game is both challenging and enjoyable, Saddened, if you can't appreciate this game, you definitely look for other things from a football game than I, as it's brill.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:53 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

No way dude. I say what I see. You will notice i've not criticised pro evo 12 at all, in fact I'm intrigued by the suggestion that it's much improved this time. I have no real loyalty to fifa, it's just been the best game recently. I used to be a pro evo fan in the ps2 days.

Your message from a couple of days ago:

"Merseyside Blue versus London at the Rose Bowl in the Master League after signing Warne Roomey. It just doesn't get any better than that.

(Or have they sorted the licenses now?)"

Judging by that comment you've not actually attempted to play Pro Evo 11 or its just a cheap way to score points or you'd already know the answer by playing it. I've not said you've criticised Pro Evo 12, its just that 2 people have come on here stating its a decent demo so far and I get the impression you don't want to believe your beloved FIFA has got competition this year

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:05 pm  

Gandy wrote:

Your message from a couple of days ago:

"Merseyside Blue versus London at the Rose Bowl in the Master League after signing Warne Roomey. It just doesn't get any better than that.

(Or have they sorted the licenses now?)"

Judging by that comment you've not actually attempted to play Pro Evo 11 or its just a cheap way to score points or you'd already know the answer by playing it. I've not said you've criticised Pro Evo 12, its just that 2 people have come on here stating its a decent demo so far and I get the impression you don't want to believe your beloved FIFA has got competition this year

It's not that I don't want to believe it, more like I am suspicious. Every year there is someone who states its better than FIFA and it hasn't been anywhere near yet. Not just opinion, that's undeniable fact. If Pro Evo 12 is really better than FIFA then I'll buy it. I'm downloading it for the PC now, so I'll let you both know my honest opinions on it later.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:29 pm  

Couldn't get it to work on the PC so I've only managed 10 minutes on my cousins PS3. I can see why you two like it. First impressions are pretty good. It looks very different to FIFA, with a few nice touches like the players moving individually at kick off, some stretching, some clapping, some high stepping. Then the gameplay feels very quick. After playing FIFA a lot recently it felt noticably quicker. I can also see what you mean about the feel of the ball. Passing and particularly long passing and through balls feel nice and weighty and there is a nice degree of control. I also think the positioning of the players is less structured and rigid than it is in FIFA. The repitition in FIFA comes from playing the same passes as you know where players will be without even checking the radar.

Having said that, the passing is too easy. You can zig-zag passes with instant control. The passing feels like FIFA 09, instant ping pong passing where you can move 75 metres down the field without doing anything remotely skillful. I also don't like the off the ball controls at all, again, feeling like FIFA five or six years ago. Some of the animation is also lacking, most noticably when you are pinballing it about. You can pass the ball perfectly no matter how the player is positioned or how his momentum is going and it often doesn't even animate the pass, it just disappears off your foot to the next player who always automatically controls it perfectly.

10 minutes isn't enough, but it is sufficiently better than Pro Evo 11 for me to be intrigued and I must admit I did want to carry on. I will be downloading the demo when Microsoft approves it, that way I can use a proper controller as well