Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:53 pm  

Standee wrote:

yup, confirmation of what O.A.P stands for.

Perhaps you could expand a little?

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:00 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Perhaps you could expand a little?

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:07 pm  

Ed Miliband can give as many speeches as he wants but will always come across to the electorate at large as a wet lettuce with no credibility. If Labour have designs on power they should drop him asap. It's not too late. Opinion poll after opinion poll show that people don't have confidence in him.

He has had some success in London (a key General Election battleground) but has now destroyed that with his so called mansion tax proposal.

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:28 pm  

Dally wrote:

Ed Miliband can give as many speeches as he wants but will always come across to the electorate at large as a wet lettuce with no credibility. If Labour have designs on power they should drop him asap. It's not too late. Opinion poll after opinion poll show that people don't have confidence in him.

He has had some success in London (a key General Election battleground) but has now destroyed that with his so called mansion tax proposal.

Any new leader preferences?

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:14 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Any new leader preferences?

There is a paucity of 'talent.' But, of the bad bunch Andy Burnham or bring back.....Gordon Brown.

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:29 pm  

People forget that this is a very strange election to fight, unlike previous elections, we knew the date of this one years ago.

It's not like getting a gut feeling of when the next election will be called and having party leaders stand on the rostrum and tell the faithful to "go back to your constituencies and prepare for government." (How did that go again Mr Steel?).

I believe this election will be won on the doorstep, Labour are mobilising troops already. They have seen the impact that had on UPRIK support and they know that's the only way to get to those who don't watch Newsnight or listen to Radio 4

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:00 am  

I think a significant factor in the election will be how well the UK and France's economies are performing at the time of the election and how well they have performed since their last election. Its not often that there is such an obvious proxy available as to how the opposition's policies would have worked.

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:45 am  

cod'ead wrote:

People forget that this is a very strange election to fight, unlike previous elections, we knew the date of this one years ago.

It's not like getting a gut feeling of when the next election will be called and having party leaders stand on the rostrum and tell the faithful to "go back to your constituencies and prepare for government." (How did that go again Mr Steel?).

I believe this election will be won on the doorstep, Labour are mobilising troops already. They have seen the impact that had on UPRIK support and they know that's the only way to get to those who don't watch Newsnight or listen to Radio 4

Knowing the date makes it a damn sight easier. That's what makes Miliband's speech so much worse. Doorstepping has always been most effective in getting the core vote out.

No opposition has ever won a general election when it has had fewer councillors than the incumbent, and to have just a 5 point lead in conference week is nothing more than statistical margin of error.

Labour will lose hugely over the West Lothian question, it's pathetic efforts to explain it away will only fool it's absolute hard core. The Tories & UKIP will hammer them over it. Even the Lib Dems will stick the boot in.

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:55 am  

LeagueDweeb wrote:

Even the Lib Dems will stick the boot in.

The Lib Dems will be too busy working out how to fund the lost deposits in 2015.

In the same way that labour paid the price for bailing out the banks and overspending, people will remember the sellout of May 2010 and they'll be wiped out.

Re: Ed Miliband Conference Speech : Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:28 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

The Lib Dems will be too busy working out how to fund the lost deposits in 2015.

In the same way that labour paid the price for bailing out the banks and overspending, people will remember the sellout of May 2010 and they'll be wiped out.

Would be interesting to know what proportion of the Lib Dem vote was students & how badly it will actually hit them. Sure sign will be if Clegg switches seats away from Sheffield Hallam. Wonder how much of a role the NUS wil play on the campaign trail.

Having had a taste of power, they will flog their apparent achievements to death & say it's better to vote for them rather than switch back to a labour party that created the mess they are 'helping' to sort.

Lynton Crosby will be vital to the Tories selling themselves & I'll bet Cameron's speech writers are prepping something that will destroy Miliband on the back of his awful performance.