[DaveO]

Re: NHS Risk Register (Shhh...it's a secret) : Wed May 09, 2012 2:34 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Not today it won't.

OH I don't know. From the Guardian blog of the Queens Speech debate from Ed Milliband:

"And yesterday David Cameron said that he preferred to think of austerity measures as efficiency measures. So, that's the message to people who have lost their job, Miliband says: You may be out of work, but you are part of our efficiency drive.

Miliband says it all. In two years, the prime minister has gone from David Cameron to David Brent."

Made me laugh. If you read the rest of it he is having quite a good time at the PM's expense it seems.

Re: NHS Risk Register (Shhh...it's a secret) : Wed May 09, 2012 2:42 pm  

DaveO wrote:

OH I don't know. From the Guardian blog of the Queens Speech debate from Ed Milliband:

"And yesterday David Cameron said that he preferred to think of austerity measures as efficiency measures. So, that's the message to people who have lost their job, Miliband says: You may be out of work, but you are part of our efficiency drive.

Miliband says it all. In two years, the prime minister has gone from David Cameron to David Brent."

Made me laugh. If you read the rest of it he is having quite a good time at the PM's expense it seems.

Did I imagine it or didn't DAve and Gideon say that the private sector would snap up all those who lost their jobs in the public sector?

Re: NHS Risk Register (Shhh...it's a secret) : Wed May 09, 2012 2:56 pm  

DaveO wrote:

OH I don't know. From the Guardian blog of the Queens Speech debate from Ed Milliband:

"And yesterday David Cameron said that he preferred to think of austerity measures as efficiency measures. So, that's the message to people who have lost their job, Miliband says: You may be out of work, but you are part of our efficiency drive.

Miliband says it all. In two years, the prime minister has gone from David Cameron to David Brent."

Made me laugh. If you read the rest of it he is having quite a good time at the PM's expense it seems.

"Unemployment is a price worth paying."

Re: NHS Risk Register (Shhh...it's a secret) : Wed May 09, 2012 2:56 pm  

when you pursue a policy of strangling both supply by slashing public spending and demand by increasing taxation (unless your a millionaire) its hardly surprising that the economy enters recession. Has Gideon got a single qualification in economics because he does not appear to be following any recognisable policy from either side of the political divide at present aside from cut slash and burn.

[DaveO]

Re: NHS Risk Register (Shhh...it's a secret) : Wed May 09, 2012 3:06 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

Did I imagine it or didn't DAve and Gideon say that the private sector would snap up all those who lost their jobs in the public sector?

Well yes and it is supposed to be the result of their entire game plan which is simply this: Cut services and public spending, cut taxes for the rich, reduce regulation (health and safety, sack people more easily), and corporation tax and then some miracle happens and millions of jobs get created. This is plan A and there is no plan B

The Queens Speech which has numerous bills in it will surely be seen as a total irrelevance because it lacks anything to deal with the countries economic problems other than stick to plan A.

Breivik Trial thread : Wed May 09, 2012 3:12 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

Did I imagine it or didn't DAve and Gideon say that the private sector would snap up all those who lost their jobs in the public sector?

I think Batman and Robin were bandying about the 500,000 figure in the private sector job creation stakes. Pair of t0ssers couldn't run a bath. As for that fooking slimeball Clegg, he's even guiltier by association. Pr!ck!

Re: NHS Risk Register (Shhh...it's a secret) : Wed May 09, 2012 3:38 pm  

rhino phil wrote:

when you pursue a policy of strangling both supply by slashing public spending and demand by increasing taxation (unless your a millionaire) its hardly surprising that the economy enters recession. Has Gideon got a single qualification in economics because he does not appear to be following any recognisable policy from either side of the political divide at present aside from cut slash and burn.

The philosophy is simple: destroy the state and any collateral damage is insignificant and unimportant.

They recognise they'll be a one-term government and don't really care as long as they've carried out that plan.

Re: NHS Risk Register (Shhh...it's a secret) : Wed May 09, 2012 4:00 pm  

Mintball wrote:

The philosophy is simple: destroy the state and any collateral damage is insignificant and unimportant.

They recognise they'll be a one-term government and don't really care as long as they've carried out that plan.

Working on the assumption that things don't improve by a huge margin over the next two/three years and on the assumption that there are more public service cuts to come, AND that the NHS is going to be crippled (hence the burying of the report today), then I'm having a hard time recalling a government who will have left under such shambolic clueless circumstances.

Ted Heath after the miners did for him springs to mind, as does Jim Callaghan, but they at least could point to very aggressive unions in the 1970s, this lot are big pussys compared to them.

Its getting more and more obvious that Cameron is just a puppet, a pretty-poster-boy who could get the evil henchmen who pull the strings into a position of pocket-lining power, I don't think he's got a single policy of his own inside his pretty head.

Re: NHS Risk Register (Shhh...it's a secret) : Wed May 09, 2012 4:30 pm  

Mintball wrote: The philosophy is simple: destroy the state and any collateral damage is insignificant and unimportant. They recognise they'll be a one-term government and don't really care as long as they've carried out that plan. They ain't even got started yet. Francis Maude: "the aim was to end once and for all the idea of any provision of public services by the state" Full speech HERE

Mintball wrote: The philosophy is simple: destroy the state and any collateral damage is insignificant and unimportant. They recognise they'll be a one-term government and don't really care as long as they've carried out that plan. They ain't even got started yet. Francis Maude: "the aim was to end once and for all the idea of any provision of public services by the state" Full speech HERE

Re: NHS Risk Register (Shhh...it's a secret) : Wed May 09, 2012 5:11 pm  

cod'ead wrote: They ain't even got started yet. Francis Maude: "the aim was to end once and for all the idea of any provision of public services by the state" Full speech HERE Whoops ! He's admitted what I have been convinced about since the election. It's not about the deficit at all, it's all about the ideology of rolling-back the state until the last shred of the welfare state is history. Ted tried and made a pigs ear of it, Maggie took it on and rolled it forward regardless of vast and cruel human cost. Dave sees it as his destiny to head towards that glorious golden day when there will be the obscenely rich 4% and the biddable and servile other 96% doing as they are told. And Clegg is letting him do it.

cod'ead wrote: They ain't even got started yet. Francis Maude: "the aim was to end once and for all the idea of any provision of public services by the state" Full speech HERE Whoops ! He's admitted what I have been convinced about since the election. It's not about the deficit at all, it's all about the ideology of rolling-back the state until the last shred of the welfare state is history. Ted tried and made a pigs ear of it, Maggie took it on and rolled it forward regardless of vast and cruel human cost. Dave sees it as his destiny to head towards that glorious golden day when there will be the obscenely rich 4% and the biddable and servile other 96% doing as they are told. And Clegg is letting him do it.