O/T Bolt from the blue. : Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:28 pm  

I was going to post this on "Other Sports" but as there has been no activity since January I thought I'd give it as miss.

I’m surprised no one has mentioned the men’s 100M final!

Listening to the crowd’s reaction after their dreams were crushed was sumptuous, I too would have loved for him to finish on a high, but sport can be cruel – get a grip! First item on the National News, really?

I personally found it quite Cathartic, but I’m so used to sporting failure, in fact I challenge anybody to “Top Trump” the Don Fox missed goal for sporting disappointments.

But the thing that really made my blood boil, NO not the two times drug cheat who turned his life around & won gold at thirty five years old.... it was this.

When they were walking out doing some freaky moves, behind them was a banner or something saying – 100M MEN FINAL I think?

What has happened to the ‘S?

Re: O/T Bolt from the blue. : Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:08 am  

Although it was a long way from the "happy ending" that the media and many fans around the world, it was only a race and it's not going to affect anyones day to day life.
As far a Gatlan is concerned, after serving his 2 year ban, he followed the rules and came back and won.
If this is so unpalatable, then, perhaps there should be a rule change ?

Re: O/T Bolt from the blue. : Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:13 pm  

It was an oooh not a boooh one of the BBC commentators stated as they rowed back the following morning.

2 bans both appealed both reduced- He has a very good legal team.

Cas are looking at him as a potential winger

Re: O/T Bolt from the blue. : Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:53 pm  

The 100m has always been the most overrated sporting event there is IMO.

Re: O/T Bolt from the blue. : Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:52 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Although it was a long way from the "happy ending" that the media and many fans around the world, it was only a race and it's not going to affect anyones day to day life.
As far a Gatlan is concerned, after serving his 2 year ban, he followed the rules and came back and won.
If this is so unpalatable, then, perhaps there should be a rule change ?

Of course he's served his bans, but the residual benefits from his use of banned substances will still be there, when he was taking these substances he changed his physicality & will be in a better condition now at 35 than if he had played by the rules all along.

People generally do deserve second (& sometimes third) chances in life, like the South African long jump winner who turned his life around, that was a great story. But when an athlete cheats so blatantly & still benefits from the results of cheating, it's hard to celebrate his success.

Should there be a rule change? Definitely. A 2 year ban is almost worthwhile when the benefits are so great

Re: O/T Bolt from the blue. : Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:10 pm  

DGM wrote:

Of course he's served his bans, but the residual benefits from his use of banned substances will still be there, when he was taking these substances he changed his physicality & will be in a better condition now at 35 than if he had played by the rules all along.

People generally do deserve second (& sometimes third) chances in life, like the South African long jump winner who turned his life around, that was a great story. But when an athlete cheats so blatantly & still benefits from the results of cheating, it's hard to celebrate his success.

Should there be a rule change? Definitely. A 2 year ban is almost worthwhile when the benefits are so great

It's quite incredible that the media are trying to say that it wasn't "booing" and that it was more of an "oo" from the crowd.
Than was just cringe worthy, especially when there was the same reaction at the medal ceremony

Re: O/T Bolt from the blue. : Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:04 pm  

A 2 year ban is almost worthwhile when the benefits are so great

In most cases maybe. Lance Armstrong would probably disagree as he is being pursued by sponsors for sponsorship money to be returned, event mgt for event winnings etc etc

Its a dangerous game, without thinking about health impacts

Re: O/T Bolt from the blue. : Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:33 am  

Exiled down south wrote:

In most cases maybe. Lance Armstrong would probably disagree as he is being pursued by sponsors for sponsorship money to be returned, event mgt for event winnings etc etc

Its a dangerous game, without thinking about health impacts

Indeed. I was talking more specifically about athletics, but you're right on Armstrong. Hopefully seeing what's happening to him will act as an even bigger deterrent for those thinking about cheating.

Re: O/T Bolt from the blue. : Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:56 am  

I wonder just how many sportstars are actually totally 'clean' and perform with absolutely no enhancement supplements or additives or allowed 'medications', and rely wholly on exercise and a regular planned (actual food based) diet ?

Re: O/T Bolt from the blue. : Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:20 pm  

Unless you are taking banned substances then you are, by definition, "clean". I don't see what adding "supplements" or "additives" into the mix is relevant. All food you consume is a long list of individual substances and additives, and a "supplement" is just an extra portion of something you already consume. Would Popeye fall foul of something for his spinach supplements? He would clearly not hae won as many fights as he did had he been totally spinach-free.