Mad Nad : Sun May 06, 2012 9:33 am  

Just happened to put Radio 5 on at midnight when I went to bed. Heard the Nadine Dorries interview lie. It was riveting stuff. The guys in the studio were gobsmacked that a sitting MP would savage their leadership so overtly and clearly. She came across well although I suspect the Tories will close ranks and she will become isolated. She did though speak sense and the few people who 'phoned in 100% agreed with her (although maybe a bit of bias as to who 'phoned in / got through)?

Will be interesting to see if there is any fall out. Could be full scale civil war in the Tory party if things don't improve for them in the next 18 months.

Re: Mad Nad : Sun May 06, 2012 9:41 am  

Hopefully there will be a civil war in the Tory party and they self destruct in a big way. What was the interview lie ?

Re: Mad Nad : Sun May 06, 2012 10:38 am  

Listen again here Surprised Dally missed this Wail link

Listen again here Surprised Dally missed this Wail link

Re: Mad Nad : Sun May 06, 2012 11:02 am  

a woman scorned. Cameron's a misogynist, ageist, elitist, out of touch bullingdon dude but I bet he's regretting his put down of Dorres in PMQs. She has given him and gideon a label in 'arrogant posh boys' (APBs) which will follow them forever. I can see a challenge in the next 12 months to Cameron. If they had any sense they would go for Davies who at least has a decent common touch but they will swing to the right

Re: Mad Nad : Sun May 06, 2012 11:07 am  

rhino phil wrote:

a woman scorned. Cameron's a misogynist, ageist, elitist, out of touch bullingdon dude but I bet he's regretting his put down of Dorres in PMQs. She has given him and gideon a label in 'arrogant posh boys' (APBs) which will follow them forever. I can see a challenge in the next 12 months to Cameron. If they had any sense they would go for Davies who at least has a decent common touch but they will swing to the right

But they won't because the people want that bumbling baffoon (or genius?) Boris to lead them. Heard yesterday he probably won't though as he's Mayor for another 4 years and won't be able to campaign in 2015.

Re: Mad Nad : Sun May 06, 2012 12:32 pm  

rhino phil wrote:

a woman scorned. Cameron's a misogynist, ageist, elitist, out of touch bullingdon dude but I bet he's regretting his put down of Dorres in PMQs. She has given him and gideon a label in 'arrogant posh boys' (APBs) which will follow them forever. I can see a challenge in the next 12 months to Cameron. If they had any sense they would go for Davies who at least has a decent common touch but they will swing to the right

I agree about Davies. I think he would make a much better prime minister than Dave the Kipper, but he is a bit more right wing, whether he could keep the Lib/Dems on side is open to question. I'm sure though that he wouldn't have cut the 50p tax rate - he'd have had more sense. I was reading this morning that nothing comes out of No. or No. 11 without Osbourne's say-so. God knows why. He's worse if that were possible than Cameron. I hated Thatcher like poison, but she at least knew what it was like to earn a living. These two are cluesless, living on the interest of trustfunds.

Re: Mad Nad : Sun May 06, 2012 12:34 pm  

Hull White Star wrote:

But they won't because the people want that bumbling baffoon (or genius?) Boris to lead them. Heard yesterday he probably won't though as he's Mayor for another 4 years and won't be able to campaign in 2015.

Boris believes it his 'destiny' to be Pm, so don't count on it. he's already stated he was re-elected despite Cameron!

Re: Mad Nad : Sun May 06, 2012 12:41 pm  

major hound wrote:

I agree about Davies. I think he would make a much better prime minister than Dave the Kipper, but he is a bit more right wing, whether he could keep the Lib/Dems on side is open to question. I'm sure though that he wouldn't have cut the 50p tax rate - he'd have had more sense. I was reading this morning that nothing comes out of No. or No. 11 without Osbourne's say-so. God knows why. He's worse if that were possible than Cameron. I hated Thatcher like poison, but she at least knew what it was like to earn a living. These two are cluesless, living on the interest of trustfunds.

Interesting to hear Theo Paphitis berate Chris Graying on QT about cutting the 50p tax rate. He looked him square on and said: "if you think that cutting my tax by 5p in the £ would encourage me to work harder or employ more people, then you're crazy. It was a daft idea that has blown up in your face"

Re: Mad Nad : Sun May 06, 2012 12:47 pm  

cod'ead wrote: Listen again here Surprised Dally missed this Wail link The interview was about the Mail article. The Mail (like all right-wing Tories) have always hated Cameron. They have seen Thursday as their chance to start to undermine him. For all the spin Cameron will be shown as a weak leader - he's not purged the Tory party in the same way that New Labour cleaned up its party. The fact that he hasn't may well now come back to haunt him and cause a split, which should see them out of power for 15 years or so. Labour though are not yet in a strong position. They have a weak leader and they are still behind in the opinion polls on the key issue of economic management. So, if there were a GE tomorrow I doubt anyone would get a majority. Let's hope Nadine has opened up issues that will not go away and lead to mayhem in the Tory party. She wants a more right-wing government and to tells the LibDems where to go. Not sure that's what the populus want though!

cod'ead wrote: Listen again here Surprised Dally missed this Wail link The interview was about the Mail article. The Mail (like all right-wing Tories) have always hated Cameron. They have seen Thursday as their chance to start to undermine him. For all the spin Cameron will be shown as a weak leader - he's not purged the Tory party in the same way that New Labour cleaned up its party. The fact that he hasn't may well now come back to haunt him and cause a split, which should see them out of power for 15 years or so. Labour though are not yet in a strong position. They have a weak leader and they are still behind in the opinion polls on the key issue of economic management. So, if there were a GE tomorrow I doubt anyone would get a majority. Let's hope Nadine has opened up issues that will not go away and lead to mayhem in the Tory party. She wants a more right-wing government and to tells the LibDems where to go. Not sure that's what the populus want though!

Re: Mad Nad : Sun May 06, 2012 1:07 pm  

rhino phil wrote:

a woman scorned. Cameron's a misogynist, ageist, elitist, out of touch bullingdon dude but I bet he's regretting his put down of Dorres in PMQs. She has given him and gideon a label in 'arrogant posh boys' (APBs) which will follow them forever. I can see a challenge in the next 12 months to Cameron. If they had any sense they would go for Davies who at least has a decent common touch but they will swing to the right

Problem is, if he is ousted we are likely to see a leader who is more right wing, the grass roots of the Tory party want MORE not less in the way of batterings for the poor, in fact one nutter who phoned in to a radio debate said if the Tories win a majority at the next election the first thing they should do id REVERSE all the concessions they made to the Lib Dems and claw back everything paid out already.