Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:21 pm  

I don't know last week it was the public workers striking now this week we've got a trade union agreeing to a 50% pay cut to keep the employer in business. Where will it end with all these self-centered commie bastads? Hello Sal, you still here?

I don't know last week it was the public workers striking now this week we've got a trade union agreeing to a 50% pay cut to keep the employer in business. Where will it end with all these self-centered commie bastads? Hello Sal, you still here?

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:30 pm  

Public sector are just as greedy as the bankers, not seeing the bigger picture, although i feel for the guys having to take a pay cut at least they understand when something is unsustainable and i applaud their common sense.

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:33 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Public sector are just as greedy as the bankers, not seeing the bigger picture, although i feel for the guys having to take a pay cut at least they understand when something is unsustainable and i applaud their common sense.

Totally agree. I read it all the time about those public sector workers getting multi-million pound bonuses and costing the country hundreds of billions of pounds.

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:35 pm  

Matt01 wrote:

Totally agree. I read it all the time about those public sector workers getting multi-million pound bonuses and costing the country hundreds of billions of pounds.

Are you being facetious? Granted the financial scales are different but the mentality isn't.

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:54 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Public sector are just as greedy as the bankers, not seeing the bigger picture, although i feel for the guys having to take a pay cut at least they understand when something is unsustainable and i applaud their common sense.

Time for re-calibration mate

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:03 pm  

Public sector workers are being brought back to reality and it's long overdue.

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:06 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Public sector workers are being brought back to reality and it's long overdue.

To an extent but HMG have capitulated big time on the pensions.

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:53 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Are you being facetious? Granted the financial scales are different but the mentality isn't.

I suspect he's taking the almighty out of you.

But go on - why aren't you a member of a union? You do know, don't you, that union membership is generally a productive thing for people?

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:04 pm  

Mintball wrote:

But go on - why aren't you a member of a union? You do know, don't you, that union membership is generally a productive thing for people?

Generally a productive thing? Well, that's me convinced, where do I sign up?

Seriously, though, what does "generally a productive thing" actually mean?

Re: Bloody Trades Unions ballsing it up again : Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:22 pm  

Mintball wrote:

I suspect he's taking the almighty out of you.

But go on - why aren't you a member of a union? You do know, don't you, that union membership is generally a productive thing for people?

I'm not a member of a union, the company i work for is covered by Unison even though it's private sector.

People in my company have gone on strike even though the basic wage at the bottom is 28k, that to me is enough for what they do and the qualifications they hold, in fact i went on record saying personally i think it's more than they're worth considering what nurses are paid. They wanted more money is the reason they went on strike, not better pensions or working conditions just pure greed in my eyes.

I'm on considerably more yet i've gone on record again saying i get paid more than i'm worth (i genuinely believe this) if push came to shove and the company was dying would i take a pay cut? yes i would, would i take a hit on my pension or working conditions? yes i would.

The majority of public sector workers are overpaid and are simply not value for money.
I have a lot of respect for firefighters (this is the opening statement to appease the inevitable poop storm i'll get for attacking firefighters) but they have 2nd jobs because they have so much time off, when they are at work they can have a whole shift sat in the station doing nothing, is that value for money?
Retirement at 55?

The Union are defending these positions and i get they have to look after their members but come on play the game, be realistic. They've turned in to a movement that used to be about creating a fairer more just enviroment for workers(i can buy in to that) in to protecting lazy f---ers and moaning about greed yet at the same time trying to squeeze every last penny out the employers they can.

The Clarkson incident was the final straw for me, their complete over reaction to his comments and then asking for him to be (wait for it) SACKED, aren't they about protecting workers? didn't they see the irony there?

Minty don't get me wrong i love the theory of how the union should be, pretty much how i love the theory of communism BUT in real life neither are viable and both are corrupt.