Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:37 pm  

If I read it correctly it's not that, it's that CPS seem to have decided that he isn't compos mentis enough to be interviewed. Not that they interview people, but hey. I fully accept that despite this, he may well be up to the standard for the HOL, where the requirement is seemingly to have a pulse. I'm not sure if it's mandatory.

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:03 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: If I read it correctly it's not that, it's that CPS seem to have decided that he isn't compos mentis enough to be interviewed. Not that they interview people, but hey. I fully accept that despite this, he may well be up to the standard for the HOL, where the requirement is seemingly to have a pulse. I'm not sure if it's mandatory. Remember Ernest Saunders? Released early from his prison sentence because he was suffering from Altzheimers. A few months later he made a full recovery (must be the only one). I always thought it was up to the judiciary to decide whether anyone was fit to stand trial, not the DPP. Mind you, Alison Saunders does appear to have previous in such matters, take a look at her "forgetting" to hand over important documents to the defence in the Barry George trial for Jill Dando's murder I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories but there have been numerous rumours that Dando was also investigating child abuse by VIPs and that investigation led to her being silenced with extreme prejudice

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: If I read it correctly it's not that, it's that CPS seem to have decided that he isn't compos mentis enough to be interviewed. Not that they interview people, but hey. I fully accept that despite this, he may well be up to the standard for the HOL, where the requirement is seemingly to have a pulse. I'm not sure if it's mandatory. Remember Ernest Saunders? Released early from his prison sentence because he was suffering from Altzheimers. A few months later he made a full recovery (must be the only one). I always thought it was up to the judiciary to decide whether anyone was fit to stand trial, not the DPP. Mind you, Alison Saunders does appear to have previous in such matters, take a look at her "forgetting" to hand over important documents to the defence in the Barry George trial for Jill Dando's murder I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories but there have been numerous rumours that Dando was also investigating child abuse by VIPs and that investigation led to her being silenced with extreme prejudice

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:01 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

He was fit enough to vote in HoL on 26 November 2013.

His dementia must've been a particularly rapid-onset variant

Mmm, having seen someone go downhill with this 18 ish months isn't that much of a rapid-onset, depends how bad he was when in HoL, I actually thought it was a requirement. Mind the Guinness case was the first thing that came to my mind too.

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:49 am  

cod'ead wrote: Remember Ernest Saunders? Released early from his prison sentence because he was suffering from Altzheimers. A few months later he made a full recovery (must be the only one). I always thought it was up to the judiciary to decide whether anyone was fit to stand trial, not the DPP. Mind you, Alison Saunders does appear to have previous in such matters, take a look at her "forgetting" to hand over important documents to the defence in the Barry George trial for Jill Dando's murder I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories but there have been numerous rumours that Dando was also investigating child abuse by VIPs and that investigation led to her being silenced with extreme prejudice Frank Beck, who was convicted in the case where he named Jenner was not a lucky guy. A couple of years after sentence he conveniently dropped dead after game of badminton. The fact that his appeal against conviction was coming up is, I am sure, totally unrelated.

cod'ead wrote: Remember Ernest Saunders? Released early from his prison sentence because he was suffering from Altzheimers. A few months later he made a full recovery (must be the only one). I always thought it was up to the judiciary to decide whether anyone was fit to stand trial, not the DPP. Mind you, Alison Saunders does appear to have previous in such matters, take a look at her "forgetting" to hand over important documents to the defence in the Barry George trial for Jill Dando's murder I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories but there have been numerous rumours that Dando was also investigating child abuse by VIPs and that investigation led to her being silenced with extreme prejudice Frank Beck, who was convicted in the case where he named Jenner was not a lucky guy. A couple of years after sentence he conveniently dropped dead after game of badminton. The fact that his appeal against conviction was coming up is, I am sure, totally unrelated.

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:24 am  

Big Graeme wrote:

Mmm, having seen someone go downhill with this 18 ish months isn't that much of a rapid-onset, depends how bad he was when in HoL, I actually thought it was a requirement. Mind the Guinness case was the first thing that came to my mind too.

According to the Sunday Times, just two weeks ago Janner signed a request to extend his membership of the HoL despite his leave of absence

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:23 pm  

The Times has also discovered that the barrister advising Alsion Saunders worked, until recently at the same chambers as Janner's son

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:19 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

According to the Sunday Times, just two weeks ago Janner signed a request to extend his membership of the HoL despite his leave of absence

Ah...

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:26 pm  

The whole system is rotten to the core.

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:04 pm  

At least Keith Harris died before he could face charges of sticking his hand up a young bird

Re: Historical sexual abuse charges... : Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:22 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

At least Keith Harris died before he could face charges of sticking his hand up a young bird

What an orville thing to say