Re: Paying a bribe to get a bribe to go away????? : Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:39 pm  

BobbyD wrote:

So, should a countries laws only apply to the poor downtrodden masses but if you've a few quid then it's a kangaroo court for you?

No, justice should be applied equally to all, no matter what their personal wealth may be. The fact that the German legal system allows someone to pay a bung to walk free, cannot be compared to justice.

If in doubt, ask the poor sap who took the original bung from Ecclestone. A poor sap because he didn't have the financial wherewithal to make the charges disappear and is now serving 6 years at the Chancellor's pleasure.

Re: Paying a bribe to get a bribe to go away????? : Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:04 am  

Curtis Warren is doing 10 years for not handing over £198m.

Re: Paying a bribe to get a bribe to go away????? : Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:33 am  

BobbyD wrote:

He's paid that dosh as a settlement, it happens all the time,

You're confused. He was facing criminal charges. "Settlements" relate to civil law disputes.

BobbyD wrote:

plea bargains

Plea bargains are completely different. Basically, the deal is, "I will plead guilty to X if you drop Y". A conviction and punishment for a crime results.

BobbyD wrote:

etc etc.

Etc etc? What etc?

BobbyD wrote:

Plus it's a perfectly legal stance in German law.

We know. There are some strange things happening in the Caliphate just now that are all perfectly legal under the flavour of Sharia being enforced. Does that mean it is right?

BobbyD wrote:

So, should a countries laws only apply to the poor downtrodden masses but if you've a few quid then it's a kangaroo court for you?

Great job of getting something completely arrse about face. Nobody but the rare likes of Ecclestone could pay $100m to dodge the bullet. It is an aspect of German law, which, like the Berlin Hilton, is open to all.

BobbyD wrote:

Sorry, what was I thinking

I don't actually know, and suspect you don't either.

Re: Paying a bribe to get a bribe to go away????? : Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:54 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

You're confused. He was facing criminal charges. "Settlements" relate to civil law disputes.

Plea bargains are completely different. Basically, the deal is, "I will plead guilty to X if you drop Y". A conviction and punishment for a crime results.

But no conviction and punishment for crime Y. It's almost like a settlement. In fact no, it's exactly like a settlement.

Re: Paying a bribe to get a bribe to go away????? : Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:00 pm  

BobbyD wrote:

But no conviction and punishment for crime Y. It's almost like a settlement. In fact no, it's exactly like a settlement.

Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you incapable of comprehension?

[DaveO]

Re: Paying a bribe to get a bribe to go away????? : Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:55 am  

BobbyD wrote:

But no conviction and punishment for crime Y. It's almost like a settlement. In fact no, it's exactly like a settlement.

Well I suppose someone has to spell it out so you can comprehend. He's bought off ALL criminal charges. In his case there is no X never mind no Y. It is therefore nothing like a plea bargain (which was your original contention).

Are you really as stupid as you come across? Don't answer that, you will probably blame being educated under a Labour government.

Re: Paying a bribe to get a bribe to go away????? : Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:23 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Well I suppose someone has to spell it out so you can comprehend. He's bought off ALL criminal charges. In his case there is no X never mind no Y. It is therefore nothing like a plea bargain (which was your original contention).

And it cost him £60m for the privilege, it's almost like both sides weighed up the potential costs and time that may be involved and reached an agreement. Being charged doesn't mean that you'll be found guilty. You should write to the Germans and give them the hard evidence you clearly have that will convict Labour donor Ecclestone and get a few more quid into the deal too.

Are you really as stupid as you come across? Don't answer that, you will probably blame being educated under a Labour government.

Who knows, but I know for a fact that I'm not as stupid as thinking that labelling a "minority" as "Token" is acceptable and not at all racist. Plus as I sit with 20 year olds who are also studying their degrees I wonder what sort of education made them think that to get the total of 37 x 43 you do 30 x 40 plus 7 x 3. Perhaps my teachers and parents were just more intelligent than the poor sods today.

Blacon's still churning out mouth breathers.

Re: Paying a bribe to get a bribe to go away????? : Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:12 am  

BobbyD wrote:

And it cost him £60m for the privilege.....

... and THAT'S the PRECISE POINT everyone's trying to get through your thick skull. I for one give up. I even suspect you're doing it on purpose.