Re: Youth Unemployment : Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:58 pm  

Damo-Leeds wrote:

I think the most demoralising thing for university graduates is getting turned down for a relatively easy job like stacking shelves at a supermarket. One of the battlefront campaigners went for a job at ASDA and was told she was unsuitable – like who are ASDA to judge whose suitable and unsuitable to9 stack their shelves? If anyone’s a job snob these days then its employers who turn down well educated people for a menial job. You’d think that the biggest supermarkets in this country would be more than happy to provide employment for our graduates until they find employment in their preferred field.

It makes zero sense for a company to take on a graduate for a menial job - unless the graduate is intending to work their way up through the ranks - for the simple fact they know they'll be taking on an employee who is actively looking elsewhere and is just filling a gap.

In simple terms, graduates are seen as overqualified for shelf stacking and by hiring inefficiently in that manner the supermarket will only be inviting increased staff turnover and all the associated expense and work hours that will incur - including hiring, training, uniforms, administration, HR & management work hours, etc.

Re: Youth Unemployment : Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:08 am  

Cronus wrote:

It makes zero sense for a company to take on a graduate for a menial job - unless the graduate is intending to work their way up through the ranks - for the simple fact they know they'll be taking on an employee who is actively looking elsewhere and is just filling a gap.

In simple terms, graduates are seen as overqualified for shelf stacking and by hiring inefficiently in that manner the supermarket will only be inviting increased staff turnover and all the associated expense and work hours that will incur - including hiring, training, uniforms, administration, HR & management work hours, etc.

You and certain companies are looking at things totally the wrong way.

If a graduate takes on a menial job in harsh times then that graduate will be forever grateful some company took them on. Lets say someone with a degree in media ends up getting paid to stack shelves at some supermarket and later on they end up getting a job for a big advertising company. They could come up with the campaign that makes that supermarket more money than what it cost that supermarket to take them on for that short period. In fact this graduate could end up making more money for supermarket than it cost them to take on university graduates during harsh times.

But the thing is with supermarkets is greed. They’ll buy things on the cheap and sell lots of things for a profit. They also run things on the cheap and it’s getting cheaper due to the increase of workfare.

Personally I think the biggest problem is that poor people have to find interesting ways for the rich to invest in them. Only this way wealth can be distributed more equally. Until then everything’s going to be hidden away in places like the Cayman Islands.

Re: Youth Unemployment : Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:42 am  

Damo-Leeds wrote:

But the thing is with supermarkets is greed. They’ll buy things on the cheap and sell lots of things for a profit. They also run things on the cheap and it’s getting cheaper due to the increase of workfare.

Personally I think the biggest problem is that poor people have to find interesting ways for the rich to invest in them. Only this way wealth can be distributed more equally. Until then everything’s going to be hidden away in places like the Cayman Islands.

Thats all rather simplistic nonsense though Damo, you're sounding like someone looking for something to blame rather than moving on.

Buying things at one price and selling them for a greater price is not difficult, you could do it this afternoon, the likes of Ken Morrison did it from almost the same beginnings as you, or at least his father did - buy stuff at one price, sell it for a greater price, repeat every day for several years and with good fortune and a following wind you'll suddenly realise that you're a businessman.

You could do it this very afternoon, indeed these days its even easier to do so - go on ebay to the wholesale lots and invest £50 in yourself, or do what the likes of cod'ead do and use your specialise knowledge to look out for individual pieces being sold for buttons and turn them around for a decent margin - I know you don't have a lot of money but you do still manage to blow £50 now and again on a night out, just invest that in yourself and stop thinking that there is some sort of secret to business, there really isn't.

Re: Youth Unemployment : Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:13 am  

As it happens I’m building a business with a friend this afternoon.

We’ll be partnering up with an endless stream of local artist who’ll promote this brand and in return we’ll promote them. Already got a hot girl band on board

My mate gets to take photos and I get to write - something we both love to do.

There’s endless empty venues we can hold events at.

This brand will probably have its residence at one of the bars in town where I can write about how ace it is. It won’t be long before others come knocking on the door asking for the same thing!

Re: Youth Unemployment : Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:14 pm  

Your mate gets to take the pics of some nubile birds, and you get to write?

reckon you drawn the short straw there

Re: Youth Unemployment : Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:22 pm  

Live Wired wrote:

Your mate gets to take the pics of some nubile birds, and you get to write?

reckon you drawn the short straw there

how do you now they're 'nubile birds' ?

it may be the Roly Polys re forming ?

Re: Youth Unemployment : Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:27 pm  

We’ll be partnering up with an endless stream of local artist who’ll promote this brand and in return we’ll promote them. Already got a hot girl band on board.

I'm thinking 18yo fitties with the iq of a housebrick.
Plenty of photographing avenues to explore

Re: Youth Unemployment : Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:50 pm  

Live Wired wrote:

We’ll be partnering up with an endless stream of local artist who’ll promote this brand and in return we’ll promote them. Already got a hot girl band on board.

I'm thinking 18yo fitties with the iq of a housebrick.
Plenty of photographing avenues to explore

auditioning in the Cas area then mate ?